I asked Ken about this privately, but would like to hear other opinons. Just before the final hand in my first cash tourney, the player who directly challenged me and ended up winning was estimating my chips. I was not concealing my chips in any way. For a while he just was eyeballing my stacks. THEN, he literally pushed his stack right over from two seats away and actually touched my stack with his stack. The dealer didn't say anything, and I didn't interfere with his actions (figured the dealer would stop him if it was not permitted) but I wasn't cool with it in hindsight. I really don't think it was kosher with the rules either. I'm trying to figure out how to do this in the future without coming off like a dick. Ken said just ask the dealer. My other option could be to tell that player if he pushed his chips over in front of me I would be glad to accept his gracious gift, but I would not be returning them to him. The rules say I cannot conceal my stacks. However, we all have personal space at the tables for a reason. What if this guy knew some kind of trick and could skillfully remove my chips without being detected? It just doesn't seem right to me. I would have even counted them and given him a total if he had asked. I'd love input.
measuring stacks it would be up to the casino if this type of behavior is allowed or not - and I doubt if any casino has a specific rule about it - it is very rude - and I am sure any tournament director would back up your right to block the other player's attempt to push his stack up against yours - Orel Hersheisher (spelling?) tried this with Rick on the WSOBJ - Rick blocked him from doing it
I agree that the player should not have been allowed to push his stack of chips next to yours or in any way touch your chips. If he wanted an accurate count of your chips he should have asked for a chip count (if allowed) prior to the start of the hand. I would say that an acceptable method of stopping him would be to either ask the dealer or to place your hand between the stacks and saying "if you want to know, please ask" BTW, I saw this same thing happen at a table I was playing at a couple of nights ago. I knew both players involved and thought is was rude but both players just laughed it off.
Yeah the tough part is wanting to not come off like a jerk. Which I don't. But I don't want anyone other than myself or the dealer touching my chips either.
chips I BELIEVE HE WAS WRONG TO STACK HIS CHIPS AGAINST YOURS AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN ELIMINATED FROM THE TOURNAMENT IF THIS WAS IN THE RULES:flame: :flame: THIS COULD HAVE BEEN A FRIENDLY MOMENT IN THE TOURNAMENT AS A JOKE OF SOME KIND(BUT NOT FUNNY):yikes: :yikes: YES YOU SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT THIS TO THE ATTENTION OF THE FLOOR(THAT IS YOUR RIGHT AS A PLAYER)WHO KNOWS YOU MAY HAVE WON THE TOURNAMENT INSTEAD:laugh: :laugh: I AGREE THERE ARE MORE WAYS OF DEALING WITH A POSSIBLE BRAKE IN THE RULES THAN BEING A ASSHOLE-YET YOU CANNOT BE QUIET ABOUT THIS EITHER AND BRING THIS TO THE ATTENTION OF THE FLOOR IN A ADULT MANNER THE LARGER THE PRIZE THE LOUDER THE COMPLAINT:laugh: :laugh:
Chips... Whats the big deal? At one of Rick's tournaments the player next to me, and I were both counting each others chips.I shoved my stack out a little towards her, and she moved hers out against mine. This was the friendly thing to do. As I have posted before, I don't think chip counting should be a prerequisite for skilled tournament play. Rick's new rule of stacks of ten goes a long way towards this goal.
You Tell the Dealer You tell the dealer that your competitor's chips are out of play. Asking is sure way to give the dealer an easy out. Now, if this is the weekly $25 buy in then you sit there and understand that this is what you bought into.
chip stacks I have had this done to me - and in a small, friendly, tournament - where the person doing it seemed like a pretty nice guy - or - in one case - a nice elderly woman - I didn't complain - just laughed and asked if they would like me to count my chips for them - I have even exchanged chip counts with other players - - like fgk, I don't think chip counting is a legitimate tbj skill - but - if it was a big money tourney - and in the current tourney environment - where chip counting is a needed skill - I would have a serious problem with a player who just did this without asking if it was ok first - if they asked - in a small tourney - friendly - sure - in a bigger tourney - serious - no way - as long as chip counting is a factor - just block his chip move with your hand - and say - no - that's not allowed
I appreciate everyone's answers. It certainly gives me something to think about. I'm not sure I would call the other player either friendly or hostile. The competition was pretty heated at that point. Granted, I am an inexperienced player, but I guess I am not understanding the difference between this happening in a cheap vs. expensive tournament. Which, I guess, is one reason I really like what Rick is doing. To me, I don't even care if it's a freeroll... I don't want anyone touching my chips! That being said, I think I have said enough. Thanks for the info.
I was at Sam's Town at Tunica a couple of weeks ago. I entered the weekly Tues. BJ Torn. with a $ 25 Buy in/ started out with 500 in chips. We did not touch each others chips .but with 3 hands to go the dealer tallied everyone's chips so we would know how everyone stood.
