illegal online gambling

Discussion in 'Blackjack Events (Online Casinos)' started by newbie, Feb 16, 2007.

  1. newbie

    newbie New Member

    I thought online gambling was outlawed. Why are we allowed to play blackjack online?
     
  2. KenSmith

    KenSmith Administrator Staff Member

    Playing is still legal in most places. However, the online casinos are breaking the law by accepting your money. So, play all you want, if you don't mind dealing with criminals.
     
  3. newbie

    newbie New Member

    If I open up an account at bet21 or get21 or playubt.com then that is breaking the law?
     
  4. Barney Stone

    Barney Stone New Member

    Not you


    But the transfer agent is. Transfer and funding to accounts is under the scrutiny of law. There are still avenues to deposit money if you check into UBT they flash it for all to see. But be warned, any money can get caught in seizure if the law so decides. So it might be prudent to consider that with any money in action. From memory the law passage had something to do with 200 or so days to establish the hard codes for the banks. Maybe we are 1/3 of the way there.

    IMO
     
  5. ANDY 956

    ANDY 956 Member

    I am watching you

    Hey Newbie,

    I keep asking questions about how the US players fund their accounts but rarely get a reply.

    See my threads and post’s on the site regarding this.

    If you do find anything out can you inform me via the private messages on this site.

    I am the British representative for overseas Internet gambling from…

    ATF

    BUREAU OF ALCOHOL, TOBACCO, FIREARMS and EXPLOSIVES

    Andy 956 ;)
     
  6. noman

    noman Top Member

    Droogieeeee:

    You dastardly double agent YOU!

    You are so slick. Lure the unsuspecting with your "come hither smile."

    Only to expertly and painfully slide the dagger between your victim's shoulder blades. You liar, you cheater, you Brutus, you Judas! You're nothing but a fraud.

    And to think I was going to follow you to the promised land. But you have slain me. And left my flesh to rot after the carions are finished. I can only pray my next level of existence is a far far better one than this and one in which I can exact sweet, or sour, or sweet and sour(and maybe hot mustard) revenge upon YOU!
     
  7. ANDY 956

    ANDY 956 Member

    Another lost mate..lol

    Noman,

    Can I deduce from the above that you do not want to be considered as my special guest at the opening of the new Manchester Super Casino?

    Andy :laugh:
     
  8. noman

    noman Top Member

    Droogie!

    Did I hear you correctly(tongue hanging out, drooling, panting anxiously)!

    Your guest at the Premier!

    I take it all back. I'll shine your shoes for a week. Feed your dead cat, whatever you want(with some limitations.)

    Why I'd be pleased to be your guest.

    Please, post haste, forward the details. You god among Men.
     
  9. ANDY 956

    ANDY 956 Member

    Hang on

    Noman,

    Don’t get too excited.

    The casino is still at the planning stage.

    It should be up and running in about four years time.

    Come back to me then.

    Droogie.
     
  10. fgk42

    fgk42 New Member

    The Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006

    The Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006 Analyzed
    by I. Nelson Rose filed under Top Story

    The Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006 Analyzed
    The Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006 was rammed through Congress by the Republican leadership in the final minutes before the election period recess. According to Sen. Frank R. Lautenberg (D-NJ), no one on the Senate-House Conference Committee had even seen the final language of the bill. The Act is title VIII of a completely unrelated bill, the Safe Port Act, HR 4954, dealing with port security. It can be found on pages 213-244 of the Conference Report. It is based on the Leach and Goodlatte bills, HR 4411 and HR 4777, but there are some important differences.


    The following is a detailed analysis of the Act. The section numbers that follow refer to new sections that have been added to title 31 of the U.S. Code:


    §5361 The Act begins with Congress’s findings and purpose. These include a recommendation from the discredited National Gambling Impact Study Commission, whose chair was the right-wing, Republican incompetent, Kay Coles James. Findings include the doubtful assertion that Internet gambling is a growing problem for banks and credit card companies. It correctly states that “new mechanisms for enforcing gambling laws on the Internet are necessary,” especially cross-border betting.


    The Act contains a standard clause that it does not change any other law or Indian compact. It repeats this many times, to make sure that no one can use the Act as a defense to another crime, or to expand existing gambling.


    Most importantly, the Department of Justice is arguing before the World Trade Organization, in the dispute between the U.S. and Antigua, that all interstate gambling is illegal under the Wire Act. The DOJ insisted that any Internet prohibition passed by Congress not expressly authorize Internet betting on Horseracing. The DOJ believes this will allow it to continue to argue that the Interstate HorseRacing Act does not do exactly what it says it does, legalize interstate horseracing.

    http://www.pokerplayernewspaper.com/printerfriendly.php?id=1482

    HAS ANYONE HEARD ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON REGARDING THE EXEMPTION OF POKER/BJ WITH THIS BILL?
     
  11. Rando21

    Rando21 New Member

    I think I read that the courts have already decided that all forms of gambling ARE NOT automatically included as DOJ would like to have it....

    Its been tested in that several people have tried to dodge credit card repayments by claiming that they were gambling at illegal site and therefore were not responsible to repay...

    Not true says a decision made by the court and this is basically why not one person has been arrested or one case brought before any court where a player is charged.

    I think so far one arrest was a sport bet person (which is defined) and the other was the Netteller guys (who as Caniadian citz were operating legally in their country.)

    Sad fact is that there is NO special interest groups sending lobbies to Washington to fix this...

    Hard to believe given the amounts of money at stake here...

    Why is the land of the "free" the only country who seems to have a problem with this activity?
     

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