Another WSOB Update

tgun;

good to hear your ideas. do you really believe that tbj could be going by the way in stl.? that is not a good sign. heck, the buffet sounds like a great deal in itself!!!!!
as you stated, a skilled local player can and does get their fanny handed to them in majors. hopefully, that turns into a learning situation. i will be looking forward to seeing yourself and your bride in tulsa. have a safe trip.

 

Hey I can testify first hand about that! Yes Ken Smith will stomp you - but he does it with a smile on his face and is a gentleman all the way. It's funny how he has a way of making you feel good when he "knocks" you out!

 

tgun

<<We have many weekly players who will pay $30 to win $1,176(100% equity).
Who wont pay $100 in a 100% equity + a $16 buffet for 2, because the $100 tournament hasn't been filling up. This attitude is what hurts TBJ. Soon they will stop having TBJ at all in Stl.>>

This is a little off topic too but important in the puzzle we know as demand for BJT. Your observation is right on. The heart of BJT is in the low level buy ins and if the casino adjusts the buy in upward just a little the demand for the game tanks. The reason, I believe, is most of the players are using the cheap game to kill time and offer a low $ risk way of making $. The demographic is weighted to retired people who by no means are poor but instead frugal. There is a big separation from people willing to invest 50 to win 700 to those willing to invest 400 to win 6000. The risk reward ratio is the same but the demand falls off about 50%. The demographic isnt looking to get rich but continue along the frugal path. Now getting back on topic, I see the WSOB as being a key tool in the ramping of demand for BJT. Infusing it into the mini tourney markets breeds demand via the vision of sugar plums in players heads. This type of lure can break some of that I spoke of above. The players from these markets will not necessarily be of ploppy quality because there is a qualifying filter. Every little bit of demand that can be brought to this BJT market is good. At this point we have the WSOB and another "BJT" to show our game on TV. We can only hope they draw in more demand or as you say 100$ games may vanish because of no players.

 

<Originally Posted by KenSmith
I agree that most any area that hosts regular weekly tournaments likely has a stronger field in every-day tournaments than the WSOB. This year, like last, the quality of play is pretty disappointing on most tables.>

Im guessing from this comment we will once again see the amateurs kicking arse. Remember way back I posted a poll on 1 Wong vs 6 wildcats? Never give a wildcat good cards! Growl.

 

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Can anyone expose the commentary team for this years TV WSOB?

 

Figures it happens at the WSOB and not at the super-satellites! After my first exposure to the Power Chip (PC) I was pulling my hair out all the way home that day!

 

Hairy Day

In fact it REALLY bothered me until I saw the infamous Joep.

Joep didn't do too well at the tables either.

After Joep lost the table to Hollywood Dave and realized that FGK42 had more chips then Joep did I saw Joep tearing at his hair too!

Only difference Joep didn't stop!

Imagine my surprise when I last saw him! :joker:

Oh Well!

 

Do you still feel qualified to judge other tournament play now?

 

If I had any hair to tear out I'd be doing it now instead of typing this. I gave it my best shot to get into the "final 40" but now I know for sure I did the right thing by trying.

 

<<The St Kitts UBT event which you failed to mention had a field of pros that if put together could open up a bank with their tournament winnings
>>>

LMAO.

 

Just out of morbid curosity, these examples of poor play making decisions.....

Were these from the casino qualifiers, the invited guests or The King?

 

Saw some from both...

I witnessed both invited and qualifiers at the WSOB make horrible plays that knocked them out, while there were other bad plays that had no effect on the players still winning their table.

It really is no different then most tournaments, bottomline is, catch the cards you can win, don't and you won't, it is as simple as that.

 

On a cool note...

I did not comfirm this, but I was told the players "Green Room" was Elvis Presleys dressing room when he performed at the International (currently the LV Hilton).

This had nothing to do with blackjack, just thought it was interesting side note for the players.

 

Yeah Elivs performs all over the place

 

Oops ...my bad. THAT Elvis

Forgot the age difference there :joker:

Thank You,
Thank you very much

 

Another enlightening post by Barney, keep up the good work we all wait holding our breath to read your words of wisdom.

 

ENLIGHTENING! Please don't encourage him......he might actually think you're serious!:laugh:

 

necessary and sufficient conditions

I'd like to share my opinion about the continuing topic "luck vs. skill".
Let's start from the simple example: "what is the necessary and sufficient condition for someone to survive in the airplane accident?"
- necessary condition: to be in that particular airplane
- sufficient condition: to get really lucky to survive
As we can see, just being the lucky person does not mean to survive in the airplane crash (you should be in that particular airplane), as well as to be in that particular airplane does not mean to survive.
Now let's return to our topic...
To be a skillful tournament player is NOT a necessary condition to win any particular tournament. There are lots of evidences that less than average players win. Vice versa, in order to win any particular tournament we need to get lucky (or at least not to get unlucky). So LUCK is a necessary condition, but skill is NOT. Let's see now if the luck is sufficient condition. As we know, not always - we need some skill to utilize our luck. Skill is also not a sufficient condition to win a particular tournament, because we simply need to get good cards.
Finally we get the follows:
Luck is necessary but not a sufficient condition to win a tournament
Skill is not necessary and not a sufficient condition to win a tournament
As we can see in any given particular tournament luck factor is more important than a skill factor, but as S. Yama stated there's nothing we can do to improve our luck level, so let's work on our skill.